Chris Lavado 10 Aesthetic Naturals That Use IIFYM or Flexible Dieting

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  1. Oh, so half natty or youtube natty is ok, that means they are natural :)))) lololol… Not saying all of them above are using shit…but….

    1. Altug Kop says:

      It’s popular now to call people “Youtube Nattys” or “Fake Nattys” because they’ve watched a few videos from channels online that cater to insecurities and shortcomings (*Cough* Fake Mercenary Jason Bloho *Cough*). I’d recommend watching videos by people who can exercise a bit more critical thinking and use evidence as the basis of their information. The two videos I linked at the beginning of this post provide quality information on this topic.

      1. So people who have unattainable natural physiques (the ones that real fitness enthusiast and pros alike can easily spot) and lie about steroid usage are naturals now? Fuq outta here brah. Why do the pros who compete never use IFFYM. Why are none of these guys on stage or winning shows and are stuck to the youtube scene? In the real word they know if they claimed natty they’d never be shit because they’d be so easy to spot it wouldn’t even be funny. Atleast people like Jeff Seid and Alon Gabbay can pull off the natty look, and even they are on some lighter cycles. Even with roids IIFYM will give you a shitty physique (aka a ripped one but not a solid top show one). You can eat all the hamburgers and tubs of ice cream you want, you will never get that shredded proportional show physique that most people strive for. IIFYM is useful if you’re on a cycle and in the off season(the only pro bodybuilder on cycle who I can think off that can pull it off would be Ronnie Coleman in his prime but he was a genetic animal), anyone whose truly natural cannot benefit from this idiotic style of dieting. Plus, the long term health problems and complications from this style of dieting are endless, I’d rather be that ripped guy in my 40’s and 50’s than that dude who does IIFYM and ends up in the doctors office having to take 10 different pills because in my 20’s I decided I was shredded from eating hamburgers and pizza. Lastly, your physique looks like shit, if you really are a personal trainer its an embarrassment that you can’t even tell who is natural and who isn’t based on their physiques. You also look like you can’t taken any negative criticism… have fun with your above average physique and your hamburgers and ice-creams “IIFYM” though right?

        1. Altug Kop says:

          I’m going to leave this here because it’s typically the type of comments I see on this topic on Youtube, Facebook etc

          Half of the guys on this list ARE pros and followed IIFYM..so I’m confused, are you saying these guys are lying about utilising IIFYM? Was it the steroids? Or both? I think you might be confused yourself.

          The problem with these kinds of posts, while I respect your opinion, is that they contain no logic, evidence or critical thinking. These physiques aren’t possible for everybody. That’s not what I’m saying. The genetic component is huge – but couple that with knowledge and consistent application, then these physiques are certainly not out of reach for most people. Especially guys like Alberto Nunez, Chris Elkins, Kane Sumabat etc who have been training for over 10 years (Kane, over 30 years!)

          For any of my readers with an open mind – here’s a link again to a great video based on the evidence of what is possible naturally by my coach Eric Helms :

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHjxH9rTAdU

          1. Agreed, have fun developing vitamin and mineral deficiencies and long term health problems while I’m in my 40’s and 50’s still kicking ass and you’re in a hospital bed with Type II 😉

          2. Altug Kop says:

            It’s hard to debate with you my friend because you are throwing straw man arguments in from the start by assuming anyone who follows IIFYM doesn’t care about micronutrition and eat mostly foods devoid of nutrition. A good coach will ALWAYS give you micronutrition targets.

            Two things I’d do bud – Read up more about IIFYM from people who value evidence like Alan Aragon, Layne Norton and Team3DMJ so that you fully understand it. Then by all means come and lets debate.

            2) Read up more about what’s possible naturally and how big people have gotten throughout history without the use of PED’s. Eric Helms video is a great place to start

            I appreciate your comments even if we don’t agree.

          3. Did you actually watch the Eric Helms Video you posted? According to him, Matt Ogus would likely not be natural considering his FFMI is higher compared to Mr. America winners from the pre steroid era.

          4. Altug Kop says:

            Sure did – Matty’s FFMI currently is around 24-26 if he’s at 5’7 180lbs. Plenty of former Mr America’s in the pre-steroid era were around that. Grimek was at a 27 ffmi, as was Eifferman. I doubt Eric would be coaching Matt if he had any doubts about him being natural lol.

  2. Matt Ogus is NOT natural. He even admitted on YouTube that he is half natty. Don’t be a FOOL !!!
    A lot of people on this list are also NOT natural.

    1. Altug Kop says:

      That was a JOKE – if you thought he was serious, then that’s your own issue for not understanding how trolling and sarcasm works lol. We belong to the same coaching group, 3D Muscle Journey who only coach natural athletes. Any of us would be morons to use PEDs while being trained by coaches who prescribe us optimal training and nutrition for natural athletes. We’d be better off going with other coaches who understand enhanced athletes and training better.

    2. Altug Kop says:

      Actually, with genetics, bone structure, attachments, training age and work ethic these physiques are possible naturally. NOT possible for everyone but if all of those things come together, which is rare, then yes it’s possible. (Genetics being the most limiting factor).

  3. It would be interesting to see a female version?

    1. Altug Kop says:

      That’s a great idea, Emma! I’m interested in that myself 🙂 Will get to researching and make a post in the very near future.

    2. Rob Harrison says:

      Paige hathaway, pizza a day and a six pack to die for!

  4. Tom Hutch says:

    IIFYM works. If you think that pro bodybuilders eat ‘Clean’ all the time you are somewhat naive. They use an enormous cocktail of drugs including daily shots of insulin on top of HGH & several stacked injectables & orals at the same time. Their bodies are in a stage of serious anabolism & metabolic turnover. A bowl of ice cream won’t even touch the sides.

    Obviously some of the physiques in this list are not obtainable without drug use. To suggest otherwise is just ignorant in the extreme.

    1. Altug Kop says:

      So basically we are in agreement then is what you’re saying? My whole point is that IIFYM works lol

      I agree and disagree with your last statement – It’s true, these physiques aren’t obtainable by EVERYONE naturally. That’s not what I’m suggesting. There’s a huge genetic component that comes into play which shouldn’t be dismissed. However the ignorance is on your end if you can dismiss any of these physiques as “Not natty” before you’ve even asked the relevant questions. “How long have you been training?”..”What are their genetics like?”..”What are their muscle bellies/attachments/insertions/shapes like?”.

      I don’t believe any of these guys are using – I could be wrong of course but I didn’t just choose any guys. I chose guys that I have experience of and who I feel have integrity from their online presence.

  5. I bet you people think tony Horton from P90X ain’t natty either or the people who do it.

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